“It’s something you have to learn. You can’t just come out of law school and say I want to do that,” he said.
He plans to spend more time with his wife, Phyllis, children and grandchildren, his 1954 Ford and his motorcycle. They’ll travel some. “I like to keep my feet on the ground,” he said.
In his early years in Lawton and in Norman, he worked in newspaper circulation. He came to OU after graduating with the first four-year class at Cameron University.
He arrived at OU and started law school at mid-term. The only problem was the spring courses were usually the second part and he and others had to take the second class before the first.
The legal profession has changed immensely since he began practicing in 1972. More lawyers. More laws. He estimates there were fewer than 50 local lawyers when he started. Today, the county bar numbers in the hundreds.
“I don’t get to know them like we used to,” he said. “I barely get to know the judges.”
In retirement he won’t miss the stress of a solo legal practice.
“I’ve been here a long time and I’ve enjoyed it for the most part but it’s time to check out while I’m still healthy.”
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