Q: What’s the margin of error for something like one of these sculptures?
A: What do you mean margin of error?
Q: There’s no error? Is that nerve wracking for you?
A: The toughest part is when it leaves our hands and we have no control. Once it goes to the foundry all I can do is go in and inspect different stages, which I do, but you’re still depending on a foundryman and their expertise.
We do all the sculpting and all the molds. We’re getting to where we’re hoping to get someone else to come in to do molds for us. We’ve done too many over the years. With all our injuries it’s really slowing us down.
Q: How does it feel to be almost done with the Oklahoma Centennial Land Run Monument?
A: Well, it was feeling good until they raised the money for the next part. We’ve been on this for 13 years and it will be 14 years by the time we finish the 38 and now we’re looking at another four to six years.
Q: That’s exhausting.
A: Yeah, we’re worn out. Our bodies are beat. Because we’re not just doing this. I’m teaching at OU, I’m an artist in residence there and I teach figurative sculpture two days a week. On top of that I do a lot of work at the university installing other sculptures. In the meantime we’re doing work for shows, smaller works for shows, as well as doing monumental pieces. ...
We’re getting there. It’s just wearing us out. We’re battling it. It’s turned into an endurance test now. When you look at Mount Rushmore, it took 12 years and then Gutzon Borglum died 12 years into it and his son Lincoln went in and cleaned up everything after that. We went past the 12th year so I’m happy. [laughing]