But I guess we all have goals in our heads where we think we should be eventually some day and what we consider successful. Some people say I am, I still have doubts about it. I keep working. We’re in the studio all the time so it’s kind of hard to get out except for some shows here or there. Other than that, we’ve been very successful in doing commission work. We’re probably one of the most productive studios in the nation. When most sculptors will do maybe 30 commissions in their lifetime, I think I’m on 138 or 139 commissions and that counts the land run as only one. We’ve been producing a tremendous amount of work. I couldn’t do it without my sons. They are amazing individuals and very talented as artists. We work as a great team.
Q: What do you hope to do next with your career?
A: I’m doing it. This is what I hope to do the rest of my life and I’ve been doing it for 36 years now. I hope to continue to just keep doing what I do.
Q: Why is it important for you to teach?
A: When I started out I had only one artist who gave me any time. He was a guy named Joe Beeler. He was founder of the Cowboy Artists of America and he actually was born in Arkansas but moved to Oklahoma. One of his first jobs was doing illustrations and he became a very well known artist and I contacted him and he invited me down for a day in his studio.
I was living in Northern California at the time. I was in my late teens, early 20s, we drove down to Sedona, Ariz., and spent the day with him and we kept in contact. He looked at my work as I did it and critiqued me. And it meant so much to me to have that one day of time. Because no other artist would give their time to me. Everyone was busy and I had some say, “Why should I share with you because you’ll just be my competition?” And they never gave me the time of day. It meant a lot to me that Joe Beeler wanted to do that. I swore that if I ever got the chance that I would teach. When President Boren asked me to come to OU it was one of the many reasons I decided to come here.